Welcome to the Waste & Efficiency project notes. These will be edited over the course of Climate Deal Day. Stay tuned for more information as the day progresses. 

Key Questions:

What are the big deals that have occurred in waste and efficiency to date?

Can these deals be replicated, and if so, where, with whom, and how?

Where are ripe opportunities for new waste and efficiency deals? What about in industrial processes and buildings (residential and commercial)?

Who should we reach out to and involve going forward to help make those happen?

 

Stan: "China is the biggest climate deal out there"

Peggy: One of the leading NGOs in China working on the clean energy space. Working with all types of companies to ... working with mayors... sustainable urbanization. 350 million people are moving into cities over the next 20 years. 2 new new york cities in floor space every year. at least 16 20million+ cities in 20 years. 

As an NGO, want to leap in front of that building train and jump ahead. In China, there is a great intent to go green because of top down. China is moving from the "factory of the world to the clean tech laboratory of the world." Regarding waste and efficiency. How do we deal with solid waste management. 

Lake Tai - hube problem with waste water - how to remove this algea from lake (first step is to remove industry). What solutions to this. 

Industrial waste

Green buildings "dalian" (?) more leed certified. China builds parks at a time (not one building at a time). Oxymoron to make a huge thing clean. 

 

Graham Andrews and Anderson Power. Very interested in industrial parks.Developing relationships with the government is what is needed. they have been given 1.5 

 

"100 ecocities" are planned in the next 5 year plan. 

single biggest thing is "to collaborate to drinking."

 

Stan: this is an enormous climate deal. how do you get in on this? How do you become part of this eco-deal plan. How do they get in on this? 

 

Graham: Intense patience. You are going to lose a year before you do anything. Have to get to know people.

 

Peggy: US is about legal contracts, China is about clans. The standard time for a meeting is two hours and not one hour. Understanding that chinese culture is 180 degrees opposite. When she started (she is us born), was very x-pat. But China is vey clan (if you're not from beijing, you area  foreigner). It is so important that you have local partners. 

 

Nissan Leaf. Pilot programs with electric vehicles guy. 

 

Peggy: Free plastic bags were banned across China because it was banned in one city and it worked. In the next 20 years, enough cement to pave whole us.

 

Kecin: 12% of world CO2 is ... and 40% is tied to built environment... total 52%. The challenge with industry is there is both old industry and new industry. You know that the chinese can just shut down dirty industry.... he thinks you should worry more about the old indstry as opposed to new stuff being built. 

 

Peggy: they build for 20 year time scales. new build

 

Kevin: We dont' want to build the cities as inefficient as our cities. Can't announce anything. 70,000 projects 6 plants in north america. Software team in India. Serious Energy Manager. Codified LBL by looking at... and within 3 weeks. Software could find things that humans couldn't. Humans were surprised. 

 

Peggy and Kevin talked about working together to make a deal. JUICCE will train 30 to 40. 

Kevin: R-8 windows for Empire state building. 

 

Jack: there is Hertz in China, they will be launching in China. They will be able to go in Shanghai, Beijing, they will bring in electric vehicles. They are trying to combine car sharing with electric cars. (Peggy - let's talk!) There are a ton of electric companies, I think we will see more companies with ideas until it goes down. The big part is the charging station. A commitment to charging stations. I think we're going to see a lot of consolidation over the next few months of charging stations. We have to move to new models of mobility. Intermodality. 

 

Kevin: They make the coating inside for the chinese rail. quit rail. reduced the weight on the car. (the challenge to get a new pavement system in the US is that you have to get cities to go for it... then 10 years to wait for it it turns out cities are very legal and adverse to trying new things -- Peggy: that is why you should go to China to do it). 

 

2 new programs that JUCCEE is working on: 

1) they do a lot of cooperation in the nuclear space. they cooperate on clean coal. in december, started a program to make a map of Chinese universities that want to invest in the US to create jointly owned IP. Identifying the US universities, types of research expertise, and matching with he Chinese investors. Win-win.  Launched in December 2010.

2) Bring companies to 4-5 cities in a row, directly to the projects, to the mayors who are interested in having your technologies come to their markets. 

Question from the audience, what about China with other countries who are leading like Denmark? JUCCCE was started out of an MIT forum on energy for the future. Governments wanted policy collaboration. Needed an NGO to facilitate this to speed it up. JUCCCE is now working more broadly. They are a distribution channel to decision-makers who are deploying projects. For instance, went to New Zealand: ecotourism, disaster recovery, and geothermal energy are their expertise areas that need to come to China. Bringing these solutions to China. 

Denmark: experts in waste to energy, meeting wrong people in wrong cities. JUCCCE can be that matchmaker. Help you identify the market and key decisionmakers.

Stan: how to scale a whole Chinese city to EVs? MASDAR is doing that with both no personal ownership of cars and all EVs. They are doing it.

You cannot have a sustainable city if everyone owns a car.

 

The goal of 100 ecocities, are 8 pilot cities. JUCCCE trained 208 cities, 400m people in those cities. More English speaking people in China than population in the US. 

You are scared of China today, well, they are now starting English teaching at 1st grade in many places. 

Peggy: you have to toast person to person. You had to teach everty person how to toast and drink. thus you can identify a couple key people who will make the decisions. They identified the two people in all of china who are . Anything to add? 

 

 

 

 

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